ELEKTOR FORUMS

Please log in to post a reply or subscribe / unsubscribe to topics

Topic: Profiler for sale

Author Post

gerry1

7 posts

Popping In
Popping In

Read post 29-05-2008 14:48

Built and sort of working.
No major problems, but all the usual ones mentioned here: I can't be bothered to sort out the alignment problems.

Best offer secures, buyer collects from Diss, Norfolk.

Gerry.

rell6l

1 post

Popping In
Popping In

Read post 05-06-2008 15:52

Hi,

What sort of figure are you looking for?

Don't want to waste your time unecessarily.

Thanks
Nigel
[nigel.adams@aeroflex.com]

pichacker

18 posts

Popping In
Popping In

Read post 24-06-2008 00:41

I've just about given up with mine as well!!!

The Profiler hardware is very good but the support from Colinbus is just plain awfull.


I have a kress 1050 spindle motor on mine and it is fully assembled and mechanically working. If someone was driving through Essex with £200 cash they could load it into the boot of their car and I'd never have to see it again

Removed

Post edited by pichacker on 08-07-2008 15:52

Cren

4 posts

Popping In
Popping In

Read post 25-06-2008 16:25

pichackerI've just about given up with mine as well!!!

The Profiler hardware is very good but the support from Colinbus is just plain awfull.

I have a kress 1050 spindle motor on mine and it is fully assembled and mechanically working. If someone was driving through Essex with £200 cash they could load it into the boot of their car and I'd never have to see it again

schallis@ford.com


Consider it sold.

pichacker

18 posts

Popping In
Popping In

Read post 29-06-2008 15:52

After over a year of struggling with Colinbus software my Profiler now has a new home.

Great hardware let down by a vital link!!

Post edited by pichacker on 29-06-2008 15:56

Post edited by pichacker on 29-06-2008 15:56

Cren

4 posts

Popping In
Popping In

Read post 30-06-2008 23:45

pichackerAfter over a year of struggling with Colinbus software my Profiler now has a new home.

Great hardware let down by a vital link!!


Hi Pichacker. I agree, although I'm discovering the hardware is not without its own issues, so don't feel bad.

Here's a little of where I'm at.

Once I get round to it, I intend to completely rebuild the machine (no reflection on you as I can see you did a good job assembling it) but there's a lot of problems I'm starting to unearth which need addressing.

The first major change I want to do is completely gut the machine of its existing Colinbus controller (as Bartman wisely suggests here: http://www.elektor.com/forum/elektor-forums/archive/colidrive-2-2-0-44-available.384141.lynkx and replace the Colinbus controller with a professional and commercially available three axis controller.

As Bartman writes, this will free you entirely from Colinbus and Colinbus's software. So far, I've discovered several alternative controllers, mostly reasonably priced (~£100) and I'm currently looking at each. Unfortunately, Bartmans eBay link doesn't work anymore.

Next, based on how well the combination of my replacement controller/power supply and third party software (mach3) function with my gutted Profiler 'shell' I'll take a look at upgrading the supplied steppers.

Since speaking with you, I suspect the ones provided with the kit are underpowered and prone to stall as I remember you saying you found.

I've been advised that the stalling might be cured by better drive from a different controller but I'm not holding my breath, given Colinbus supplied steppers rated at only 1.5A which I understand, is fairly poor.

Having one of the stepper motors stall mid-milling-job as you did, is not an experience I'd like and arguably not one that should occur if the machine were adequately designed to begin with. So I believe upgraded stepper motors are a further additional but necessary expenditure.

Taking a quick look underneath the Profiler, I discovered a stepper mounted on three long stand offs. I was curious as you'd mentioned you found the machine would run at a higher speed when warm but stall when cold? So on a hunch, I unscrewed the stand offs to take a better look at the stepper.

What I found was that these stand offs had not been accurately machined and were of slightly differing lengths. Something for which there really is no excuse in these modern times of precision cnc mass production and manufacturing.

I suspect Colinbus have some quality control issues here or perhaps lack of?

There is no flexible coupling fitted between the stepper drive shaft and lead screw so both need to be mounted absolutely and precisely in line with one another. They are not. The offset and the rigid coupling will place a large strain on the motor, bearings and shaft. This needs to be addressed and has also been added to my list.

The other stand offs may be equally faulty, but without taking the machine completely apart, I really don't know what else I may discover.

What has happened, is that I'm being left with the distinct impression that as supplied, the machine requires a substantial amount of extra effort, thought and re-working in order to fill voids and bring it up to a reasonable minimum and professional standard. Not what you'd expect from something costing £1,200.00 Quite shocking really.

Given that, it makes me wonder whether the whole thing was grossly overpriced to begin with?

Post edited by Cren on 30-06-2008 23:47

Post edited by Cren on 30-06-2008 23:48

Post edited by Cren on 30-06-2008 23:49

Post edited by Cren on 30-06-2008 23:50

Post edited by Cren on 30-06-2008 23:51

Post edited by Cren on 30-06-2008 23:52

Post edited by Cren on 30-06-2008 23:52

Post edited by Cren on 30-06-2008 23:56

Post edited by Cren on 01-07-2008 01:01

Bartman

50 posts

Occasional Visitor
Occasional Visitor

Read post 01-07-2008 00:19

Allow me to update my earlier link....

http://stores.ebay.co.uk/Routout-CNC-Shop

pichacker

18 posts

Popping In
Popping In

Read post 01-07-2008 09:13

Chris,

Glad you've made progress with the Profiler and please let me know the outcome of your efforts.

I too noticed the standoffs and found that the axis worked better when they were placed in a particular order. I think I can remember packing with a washer or two?

Anyway, good luck. You've got a bargain and I now have some spare space for the next project!!!!

Steve.

Cren

4 posts

Popping In
Popping In

Read post 01-07-2008 10:22

BartmanAllow me to update my earlier link....

http://stores.ebay.co.uk/Routout-CNC-Shop


Thanks Bartman.

Cren

4 posts

Popping In
Popping In

Read post 01-07-2008 10:31

pichackerChris,

Glad you've made progress with the Profiler and please let me know the outcome of your efforts.

I too noticed the standoffs and found that the axis worked better when they were placed in a particular order. I think I can remember packing with a washer or two?

Anyway, good luck. You've got a bargain and I now have some spare space for the next project!!!!

Steve.


Thanks Steve.

Yes, for £200 I'm very happy and willing to take the gamble with the extra the replacement bits will cost. Once the machines been gutted and I've spent some time on it, I'm hoping it will turn into something good.

I'll let you know what happens. But this may take me a while as there's a bit to learn first.

All the very best with your new project! Cren.

Post edited by Cren on 08-07-2008 02:32

Please log in to post a reply or subscribe / unsubscribe to topics

Bestseller

PIC Microcontrollers

This hands-on book covers a series of exciting and fun projects with PIC microcontrollers. You can build more than 50 projects for your own use.